Why the Hokies Have to Beat Alabama
by furrer4heisman on Aug 24, 2009 1:00 PM EDT
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We're less than two weeks away from Virginia Tech's game against Alabama in the Georgia Dome. Coming into the game, more pressure seems to be on the Hokies than the Crimson Tide. There's good reason for it, too. Tech has a lot more on the line in this one than the Tide. There are several reasons the Hokies HAVE to beat Alabama on Sept. 5:
Because we want to win the national title.
This one's obvious. Both teams want to raise the crystal, but the Hokies won't be able to participate in the BCSCG with a loss. It's just not going to happen. Alabama can lose its opener, run the table in God's Conference and still get a trip to Pasadena. If we're going to fill the empty trophy case, we're going to have to beat the Tide.
Because we lost to LSU by 41 points.
The last time the Hokies tangled with an SEC opponent, they got taken behind the woodshed. Virginia Tech's national reputation took a huge blow that night in Baton Rouge. If that happens again, it would do irreparable damage to Tech's rep. The Hokies got some of their pride back by winning the Orange Bowl. But beating Bama would be bigger.
Because Clemson failed.
For the second consecutive season, the consensus pick to be the ACC's national title contender is facing Alabama in the CFA Kickoff Game. Last year, Clemson signalled the beginning of the end for Tommy Bowden by getting embarrassed by the Tide. The ACC can't afford a similar showing from Virginia Tech. The conference has been beaten and battered by national media during its current downslide and people are wondering if the ACC is the worst BCS conference. It's not. But people won't believe the ACC has good football and good players until someone steps up on a national stage and beats someone like Alabama. The Hokies get their chance in Week 1.
Because f--k the SEC, that's why.
I have had it with everyone considering the SEC to be the end-all, be-all of college football. It's like the 12 teams in God's Conference are all playing for the real national title and the other 108 are simply playing for the honor being beaten by Florida or whoever in the BCSCG. And people are acting like it's always been that way. Wrong. College football runs in cycles and currently God's Conference is the one everyone considers to the be best. I'll give it to the SEC in this respect, though. It turned its good fortune into a strong profit, unlike the Big Ten before it. But economics aside, the product God's Conference isn't so much better than everyone else's that we should worship at its altar. F--k the SEC, f--k its arrogant fans and f--k everyone at ESPN who has continued the myth that it don't get no better ESS EEE SEE foobaw. That's why we have to beat Alabama. Because this conference and its fans must be stopped.
Can you think of any other reasons we have to beat Alabama on Sept. 5? Fire away in the comments.
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Depending on what other teams do I actually think we can go 11-1 and make the MNC if we win all our OOC games and lose a CLOSE ACC game outside of the ACC Championship. What would even be better is if we lose to say NC State in the regular season then played and beat them again. But I agree for it to happen we need to take of business against the tide.
I am gravitating towards point number four. I would really like to knock the SEC back down to Earth. Although I think beating GT in Atlanta will ultimately lead to a more successful season (because we aren’t going 11-1) and if we lose to them I think it will be a tough to go back to the ACCCG.
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by collegegameballs on Aug 24, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions
Oh how we all love the optimism of the preseason
The college football season is so fragile. It's like a glass ball being pushed around from stadium to stadium by a rhinoceros.
by Winfield Featherston on Aug 25, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
SEC-SEC-SEC-SEC
Get used to the sound of that. The nightmare continues 9-5-09.
P.S.
FUQ2 & Roll Tide Roll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sincerely,
Arrogant SEC fan.
by lcase373 on Aug 24, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Does anyone know if there is an online SEC to English translator?
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by collegegameballs on Aug 24, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
No, but I will try to assist you
English – SEC AND/OR PEOPLE WITH AT LEAST SOME FOOTBALL IQ
SEC = BEST
ACC = JOKE
SEC FANS = MOST PASSIONATE (AKA BEST)
ACC FANS = DRUNK WANNABES
SEC STADIUMS = STATE-OF-THE-ART SOLD-OUT VENUES
ACC STADIUMS = EMPTY DUMPS.
PRESEASON SEC FAVORITE = NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP
PRESEASON ACC FAVORITE = CHOKE
CHICKFILA COLLEGE KICKOFF = NIGHTMARE FOR JOKE-CHOKERS
I could go on forever but I think you get the point.
by lcase373 on Aug 24, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Didn’t you guys lose to Utah or something?
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by collegegameballs on Aug 24, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
youre the reason people hate the sec. im sure there are some great tide fans out there and i look forward to tailgating with all of them in less than two weeks. but you give them a bad name.
congrats on being a stereotype.
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by furrer4heisman on Aug 24, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm a stereotype, huh?
You might have missed it but the conference bashing started at the top of the page.
I’ve been coming here all summer and have found it to be pretty awesome. Today I come here and find an SEC hit-job, so you dam right I responded. I’m tired of other conferences fans complaining about the SEC and it’s fans. You want to do something about then win on the field, don’t whine about it on some blog. I’ve got nothing against VT or the ACC but I’m not just going to sit back and be silent while people hate on us just because we’re good and proud of it. This little exchange has taught me that you guys can dish it out but you sure as hell can’t take it.
PS
Yes, you are very observant, we did lose to the only undefeated team in the country and the eventual national champion so you will have to forgive me if I don’t hang my head in shame. It could’ve been worse after-all, we could have lost to ECU.
by lcase373 on Aug 24, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
so basically
the sec is good because the teams are tough and those teams are tough because theyre in the sec? ok, got it.
ps
you dont know anything about our fanbase.
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by furrer4heisman on Aug 24, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't wish to inject venom into this thread
the sec is good because the teams are tough and those teams are tough because theyre in the sec? ok, got it.
But this statement is nonsense. And it was obviously written by a bitter bitter man.
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Eric Berry is better at football than you
Yes, you are very observant, we did lose to the only undefeated team in the country and the eventual national champion so you will have to forgive me if I don’t hang my head in shame. It could’ve been worse after-all, we could have lost to ECU.
I could make the excuse that we didn’t play Tyrod Taylor against ECU, but I won’t. I would rather win games at the end of year, like the conference championship and BCS bowl than the ones leading up to it.
This little exchange has taught me that you guys can dish it out but you sure as hell can’t take it.
I can take it, but what exactly am I taking? What has Alabama done for itself or the SEC in the recent years except be investigated for scandals? You all are 41-23 over the last five years and we are 52-15. If maybe you were from a more successful school like Florida, LSU, or Auburn you could run your mouth and it would carry some weight.
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by collegegameballs on Aug 24, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Uhhhhh....
Why is it that when you talk about history, it is the LAST 5 years? You expect that to win an argument? If you are gonna talk about history, talk about all of it and then run your mouth! Thats right, what does VT honestly have other than the last 5 years and even then you guys come up short. Lets make some comparisons here
Alabama National Titles VT National Titles
8 (4) 0 (In ANY sport)
Alabama SEC Champions VT Conference Titles
21 7
Alabama Bowl Appearences VT Bowl Appearences
55 22
Alabama Total Victories VT Total Victories
780 658
Your next point will be, “well what has bama done recently?” Well, what has VT truly done…………. ever? Just keep staring at the empty spaces in your trophy case……
by AlltheGreatQBs on Aug 25, 2009 6:12 AM EDT up reply actions
should be
UA (NC) 8, (SEC) 21, (Bowl Games) 55, (Total Victories) 780
VT (NC) 0- in any sport, (Conf.) 7, (Bowl Games) 22, (Total Victories) 658
by AlltheGreatQBs on Aug 25, 2009 6:17 AM EDT up reply actions
i give you credit
for not claiming 12 national titles.
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by furrer4heisman on Aug 25, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking Curling actually
(but in case anyone was actually wondering all three are in the hammer throw)
hes right that we dont have any team titles.
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by furrer4heisman on Aug 25, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I was serious about Bass Fishing.
http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/tournaments/news/story?id=3072091
Although it seems to be a club sport.
The bass fishing is a legit national championship. If you argue that is isn’t sponsored by the NCAA than neither is the Div 1a college football championship, ie the BCS. The bass fishing title was won at the highest level of college bass fishing competition.
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by collegegameballs on Aug 25, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I used the last five years as a metric because it is current. If you want to live in the past that’s fine by me, but you are acting like Notre Dame fan. My guess if that throughout the entire BCS era VT has done more than Alabama.
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by collegegameballs on Aug 25, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Technically ..
the last 5 years are the past also.
I agree (obviously), but In the last five years the game hasn’t changed much. I would argue that the game has changed a little since the beginning of the BCS, but it has grown and changed leaps and bounds since the time that AlltheGreatQBs is referencing.
Alabama is a great program, but my original statement stands. In terms of recent SEC success, Alabama has done very little. And it also makes me think a little less of your fan base that you need to use the accomplishments of the SEC as a whole, instead of your own, to talk trash.
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by collegegameballs on Aug 25, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
whoa whoa whoa..
how many of our fans have you met that made you so bitter? The member of RBR have come over here and been very polite….don’t let one persons rant ruin your opinion of the rest of us…
Deal?
Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy. - The Ghost of Jay Cutler
I was our rockin’ a VT hat and out of no where I heard a deranged woman hollering “RTR!, RTR!, RTR!” At soon as I turned around I was smacked in the face by clenched fist wrapped around a roll of quarters. So that makes two.
But seriously, I agree 100% that every fan base has bad eggs.I don’t hold it against the majority. I like you guys at RBR and also the one’s at 3SIB.
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by collegegameballs on Aug 25, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
RTR!
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by furrer4heisman on Aug 25, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
those stats were just bama’s stats
by AlltheGreatQBs on Aug 25, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
that is all of Bama’s stats versus all of VT’s stats
by AlltheGreatQBs on Aug 25, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Heres the deal
I agree until last year Bama has struggled since 99 except maybe a year here and there.There is NO question Bama has the most overall program success in the SEC.Thing is times are changing my friend great coach,top recruiting classes,etc.are turning the program around.
I think you know what I mean...
by RollTideRoll on Aug 26, 2009 4:13 AM EDT up reply actions
No
VT has not done more than Bama in any part of “football” history. I have to say something really fast. I posted those stats on here thinking that I would get torn alive for even being on here and to my suprise, you guys are REALLY cool. I have to say, I am a die hard Bama fan and an SEC fan, but those guys can’t even handle the facts if its in their face. I wish you guys no more injuries and a very hard fought game and a (miserable loss) against my Tide.
by AlltheGreatQBs on Aug 25, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
objection
VT has not done more than Bama in any part of "football" history.
What the years 1998-2007? That’s a good decade right there.
Thanks for the compliments. Yeah, we’re a bit more respectful that those SEC vermin. A little bit more friendly and cuddly. I mean, our mascot’s a turkey fercryinoutloud.
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by furrer4heisman on Aug 25, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
touche!
I didn’t mean in any “part” of football history, because you have clearly out shown us in the past decade. I mean you haven’t in any “aspect.” lol, I actually enjoy debating with you guys. I get scorned by my own fanbase.
by AlltheGreatQBs on Aug 25, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
IN SOUTH EASTERN CONFERENCE, YOU BLEED FOR TEAM!
oh wait, we’re angry at each other?
OH YEA, fan base I never interact with, I hate you sooo bad. I hate you really really bad. We’re going to beat you, fan base that’s part of another conference, we’re gunna beat you so good you’re gunna wish we didn’t beat you so good (family guy stealing I know)
yea, your coach who’ve I’ve only seen in a bowl game years ago, is worse than our coach. Your players, whom I’ve never sat down and watched, are obviously worse than our players
We’re going to get you, fan base/ team I haven’t seen in the better part of the decade, and its going to be baaaadddd
(Your Team Here) sucks
by Wallacewade04 on Aug 26, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Tech has a lot to live up to against Bama. We have to be realistic. When has Tech beaten a proven winner, that was highly ranked, NOT at Lane? Texas in 1995 perhaps. This would indeed be a stunner if Tech wins, but if they do, the Hokies must turn it into a National Championship run. The times we have a chance for that will be very few and far between.
Ignoring the above exchange
I am a Bama fan, but I want to know what the fan base’s thoughts are on Beamer. He’s been around forever, but even if he has a disappointing season (by whatever standard), will we ever see him on the “hot seat”? I wouldn’t think so, but that’s just my outsider opinion.
by HarveyBirdmanAAL on Aug 25, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions
youre right
Beamer built the program. Unless something catastrophic happens, he’ll be allowed to leave Virginia Tech on his own terms when he feels it’s time.
I’ll put the same question to you: What would it take for Saban to be forced out at Alabama?
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by furrer4heisman on Aug 25, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
At this point in time
probably not as much as you might think. He’s bought himself at least two disappointing seasons, I guess. With the type of athletes he’s brought in, there’s no reason even an average coach couldn’t win 8+ each year (4 out of conference wins and then 4-4 in the SEC). With only two years under his belt, it’s really tough to predict. This year will tell us a lot.
by HarveyBirdmanAAL on Aug 25, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
We hate Bama too !!!
Go Hokies !! I’m for UT and who ever is playing Bama . Frank will have the boys ready and I think it will be a heck of a game ! Good luck Hokie nation !! By the way great stadium and great fans…never a empty cup !
Phil,GO VOLS !!!
The contradictory notions running through this thread are quite conspicuous...
…and kind of funny, too.
Tech Fan: Beating Bama would be huge because it is an SEC opponent
Tech Fan (again): The SEC is overrated and isn’t what they think they are
Can you say non-sequitur?
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Eric Berry is better at football than you
beating bama would be huge because theyre ranked No. 5.
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by furrer4heisman on Aug 26, 2009 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
your face is number 5!
wait…
(Your Team Here) sucks
by Wallacewade04 on Aug 26, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
The Best Reason for VT to Win...
How about vengeance for 1973? Is there anybody left up there who remembers that one? We racked up over 800 yards total offense (despite three turnovers). A then-NCAA record 748 yards rushing. Four players over 100 yards rushing. Final score: 77-6.
Yes, I am old, why do you ask?
Seriously I’m looking for a tough game. No blowouts this time. Ya’ll are a lot better than Clemson, and won’t fold if we score in the first quarter. Is the under for this game 14? Should be fun. Good luck…but not too much!
I've trolled this board
a few times since joining SBnation to see what Hokies thought about the Bama/VT game.Until reading this post I thought you guys were pretty classy except the Hokie Boyz on youtube.
Hey buddy Beamer ball is about to get trucked just like the last time your Hokies F—ked with the SEC!
I think you know what I mean...
We’re not classy because we make a solid argument that you cannot refute?
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by collegegameballs on Aug 26, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
just for clarification..
what solid argument are you speaking of?
Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy. - The Ghost of Jay Cutler
BLAH BLAH BLAH...
Alright people lets settle down… FIRST OFF…. Bama fans have a vaild point, we kind of have been alot whole lot better in most sports than VT in the past decades….VT has a point they have been a bit more better than we have these recent years, thats fair. As far as SEC being “bad fans” I will disagree. When you have such a hyper competive conference like we do, we tend to cheer a bit more against rivals and other conferences its nothing personal and we don’t think were a “better” conference, we take pride in living up to the hype we get. The game hasn’t been played yet so its not like any side can really claim victory here. I live in florida, and being a bama fan isnt easy trust me but i resepect all other teams and conferences and when the game is played and over I will shake the victors hand and accepct the loss, so please don’t call ALL OF US bad fans. It will be a hard fought game but until the game is played, dont talk crap, dont bad mouth the SEC nothing has been proven yet. Don’t blame us for winning the last 3 NC’s and until the year the ACC wins one, the SEC will contiune to be the best conference out there!
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