Latest Expansion Rumors and How They Could Affect the ACC and Virginia Tech
by furrer4heisman on Jun 6, 2010 6:05 PM EDT
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PrintThe Big 12 isn't dead yet, but it is now on life-support. It appears those rumors of the Pac 10 inviting six Big 12 schools is true. Chip Brown of Rivals is now reporting that Pac 10 commissioner Larry Scott has been given the authority to hand out invitations to the conference.
The Big Ten's reaction? According to the Chicago Tribune's Teddy Greenstein, Big Ten commissioner Jim Delaney said it "could affect" the league's expansion timeline. Previous rumors had the Big Ten expanding invitations to Missouri, Nebraska, Notre Dame and Rutgers and expanding to 14 or 16 teams depending on Notre Dame's answer.
So if the Pac 10 and Big Ten expand to 16 teams, would the SEC or ACC do the same? Opinions vary. Some believe the SEC would stand pat and stay at 12 teams instead of trying to feed four extra mouths. But that's not any fun. Others think the SEC would keep up with the Joneses and expand by four.
How this affects the ACC and possibly Virginia Tech will depend on who the Pac 10 takes.
Will the Hokies wind up in the SEC?
No.
I don't think any SEC expansion scenario includes Virginia Tech. Depending on what happens with the Pac 10, the SEC will either stay at 12 or, expand to include Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor and Texas Tech if the Pac 10 balks at taking Baylor or Texas, Texas A&M and two ACC teams if they get the chance.
If the SEC decides to expand to 16 and take four ACC teams, those four will probably be Clemson, Georgia Tech, Florida State and Miami. Virginia Tech is far, far down on the SEC's wishlist, probably below North Carolina and Duke (basketball exists, too, you know).
Why doesn't the ACC expand first to avoid an SEC raid?
Because John Swofford is spineless and the Tobacco Road power brokers are old, short-sighted and stupid. How's that for an answer?
What happens if the SEC takes four ACC teams?
Then the ACC has two choices. It can either add four teams to get back to 12 or add eight to go to 16. Well, I guess there's a third option, which is do nothing so the Tobacco Road folks can get their precious round-robin basketball season back. And because that's a really dumb option, it means it might be the most-likely one.
If the ACC decides to add four, my preference would be Syracuse, UConn, Pittsburgh and West Virginia. If it has to add eight, I would prefer South Florida, East Carolina, Louisville and Cincinnati. That would be a full merger with the Big East with the addition of East Carolina.
What is the most far-fetched scenario?
What I'd love to see is also one of the least-likely scenarios. I want to see four leagues expand to 16 teams and split from the NCAA. Then Notre Dame, which arrogantly refused to join any of the four, gets screwed over. That would be fantastic.
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Now you know what the ACC is really like!!
It is kind of ironical that Va Tech is now FINALLY discovering that the ACC is a basketball ONLY conference, due to the NC influence. It has always been that way and always will be. And now you have discovered that even with 12 teams, NC and Duke RULE this league and no one outside of NC will ever have true meaning to the ACC. That is the reason I hope my Terps will have the sense to JUMP on the opportunity to join the Big Ten if they can. But Debbie Yow and her southern background (NC) will undoubtedly try to hang on to remain in an outdated conference that is still living in the 1970’s! I only hope that the UM President has the foresight to overrule this outdated AD and do the right thing. Hopefully you guys can get hooked up with the SEC too and be a part of the New World. Let the Dookies and Tar Holes stay in a conference of leftovers when all this is done.
The ACC’s only hope, I feel, is to somehow get ND to join the ACC and add 3 other Eastern schools, which could provide the TV package that is equal to the other up-and-coming Super Conferences. But I would not bet the house on that happening!! Go ACC!!! Let’s make sure we can show 2 games each year on ESPN with Duke & UNC, which is the ONLY thing the nation truly wants to see from the ACC. We can join up with the Big East leftovers and be a basketball-only conference ! Va Tech, you dudes may have made the wrong blackmailing to get into the old and outdated ACC!! You should be contacting the SEC tomorrow!!!
Sounds familiar
Because John Swofford is spineless and the Tobacco Road power brokers are old, short-sighted and stupid.
Because John Swofford Dan Beebe is spineless and the Tobacco Road power brokers in Dallas are old, short-sighted and stupid.
I'm not sure where VT is on the conferences wishlist
But from a fan’s perspective, I love the idea. Although, considering some of Roy Kramer’s remarks, I think the first couple of choices are (not necessarily in this order) A) consolidate the FL panhandle, B) Lock up Atlanta, C) raid Tobacco Road with UNC and Duke. That would be the perfect four. Other options are to poach aTm (maybe UT and maybe OU along the way), and VT. Miami is actually pretty low on this list.
I could see us also going after Mizzou if all the eye-batting at Delany doesn’t pan out. Our friends in the Midsouth would like that and it gives basketball some cachet and academics a pretty good boost.
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
SEC fan woul would love to get VT
As a former Auburn Tiger fan, and a current Tennessee Vol fan, I would love to have VT, FSU, Georgia Tech, and Clemson from the ACC, and if we’re pulling two from the Big 12 and two from the ACC, I’d want VT first, followed by either GT or FSU, and then Oklahoma and Texas from the Big 12, even though it looks like we’ll be picking up TAMU very soon.
VT would be a great fit for the SEC, and there’s no other conference that would be a better deal for them.
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