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Will 2010 be Bryan Stinespring's Salvation or His Last Stand?

[Lots of words ahead. You've been warned.]

After three years of waging battle with his many critics, all is quiet on the Western front for Bryan Stinespring. Where before people spent the offseason wondering how he was going to screw up the Hokies' national championship aspirations, there is a new sense of optimism surrounding the Hokies' offense leading up to 2010. Bryan Stinespring's offense.

It's been called inept by myself and anemic by writers much better than myself. But for once there is hope that Tech's offense will be something greater than the putrid, floundering, inferior version we saw for three seasons from 2006-2008.

Stinespring isn't the top reason Hokie fans are concerned about this upcoming season. By his own admission, he can sleep easier at night with Tyrod Taylor as his quarterback and an offensive stable that includes Ryan Williams, Darren Evans and Jarrett Boykin.

But we can be sure the Mongrel Horde that has somehow made getting another human fired from his job their lone hobby will again crawl out from under their respective bridges and scream at the top of their lungs from every corner of the Internet that Stinespring should be removed as Tech's offensive coordinator at the first sign of struggle for the offense.

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Rush (and Pass) to Judgment

And so, one year after seeing his offense make an incredible jump from 4.5 yards per play to 6.2 yards per play, Stinespring enters what could be a career-making season. Succeed, and he could potentially Bustle his way to a head coaching job at the Football Bowl Subdivisions lower tier. Fail, and it would be wise to invest in any store in Blacksburg that supplies torches and pitchforks.

Stinespring is in good company when it comes to college football offensive coordinators whose actual first name might as well be "embattled." Even Florida's offensive coordinator, Steve Addazio, is hated by his own fan base. Nearly no offensive coordinator is safe, let alone one with an inadequate track record like Stinespring.

I think the reason has a lot to do with the fact that it is tough to tell a good offense, especially with per-game-based stats. With defense, it's easy to spot a good one and a bad one. But often, offense has to looked at under a microscope to see what it's value truly is.

It's not hard for teams with high-powered offenses to lose four or five games per season. But I think it's much tougher for teams with great defenses to lose consistently. As for Tech, sure it has Taylor, Williams and Evans, but at its core it's still a ball-control offense designed to keep its defense fresh and off the field.

Trust me, we don't want the Hokies running 1,000 plays from scrimmage, especially this year with all the new starters on D. We want a team that can make games short, run the clock and be efficient. For those teams, it's much tougher to get an idea of how it has performed.

Waiting for the Body of Work

And therefore, it's going to be tough to judge Stinespring in 2010. If we score 40 points per game and go 8-4, will he have succeeded? No way. But if we average under five yards per play and go 11-1 will he have failed? Not by a long shot.

At the end of the day, an offense like Virginia Tech's has to pass the eye test. And the problem with that is there are very few people, myself not included, who are qualified to judge it. Stinespring has to walk a fine line between getting the most of his talent-rich offense and helping the team as a whole win games. It's a heavy burden.

If Virginia Tech has a successful season AND the offense satisfies its critics, Stinespring will arrive at the end of the season redeemed. All the times the coaching staff blamed being behind on talent and lack of execution will have been true. But if the offense isn't up to snuff and the Hokies finish the season ranked significantly below their preseason ranking for the first time since 2003, then he could have wasted his final chance.

One thing I'm sure of though is the answer to the question posed in the title won't be answered until January, after the bowls. We won't know after Boise State, we won't know after the November Gauntlet through the Coastal. We'll know when it's over. Only then will we be able to evaluate Stinespring and the job he did in 2010.

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How will you judge Virginia Tech's offense in 2010?
Wins
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Points
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Yards
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Other
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Wins?

So if you voted for wins as the best criteria for judging the offense, do you think Florida State’s offense should be criticized for their performance last year? If we score 40 a game but the defense gives up 45, then you will judge our offense poorly?

I’m not saying our defense will be bad, but just like Wins for pitchers in baseball has been thoroughly discredited as a meaningful stat, I’m shocked at how many people will judge our offense on wins. They can only control how many points they score. Punishing them if the defense has a bad game is irrational.

by Joelestra on Aug 17, 2010 8:32 AM EDT reply actions  

what if

the defense gives up 40 points on the field because our time of possession is around 10 minutes and we lose with a score of 35. Then the offense coordinator is to blame for not using more time on our possessions. The defense can not be blamed for giving up 40 points if they were on the field for 50 mins. So it is a mix of wins and points that you need to judge the OC by. I would rather judge by the success of how well the team moves, points they score, and play calling.

by hokiewolf on Aug 17, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I understand the arguement against scoring too much or too fast

and we don’t want our defense on the field for too many plans. BUT, even last year, there were far too many 3 and outs from this offense. We don’t need that many more points from our O, but what we need is more sustained drives against the good defenses. Sure we ended up with 20+ points against Bama, UNC, and GT, but our offense also had pathetic yardage outputs. The under 5 play drives that really plague the Stiney offense are what gives us fans concern. Scoring on back to back drives and then going three and out the rest of the half is the problem.

If he is more consisten with good play calling (less predictable) things will work out better. Sometimes you have to pass to set up the run. You can’t just run to set up everything. Some teams are good enough to stop a play when they know exactly what is coming. We have to completely dominate in the trenches to score 30+ points.

by Your Father on Aug 17, 2010 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

I voted for other – and the main reason is, some games we’ll need to score 24+ points. Other times we may need only 14. But it’s how we handle the situations. If we’re running a draw on 4th and 6 with time running out on the road at Miami that’s a fail (‘08 I believe). If we’re just shoving it down the throat of our opponent just run up the middle 4 yards at a time dominating the clock and stripping the will out of the opposing defense – that’s productive.

IMO, Stiney will never be 100% accepted by the fan base for his previous years. He was the scape goat for our crappy offense a few years ago (whether that’s right or wrong to blame him is another debate). Last year our O turned a corner. This year I, with what we’re hearing about our Oline depth and a senior QB, I expect our O pick up where they left off (not immediately cause our Offense has historically taken its time to ramp up).

This season, I think we’ll be just fine. We wont turn into the Texas Tech offense of Mike Leach but we’ll have a sufficient offense to eat the clock and score when we need to score.

by vt caps fan on Aug 17, 2010 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

I said other

because I think it comes down to playcalling and 3rd downs. I am tired of losing to teams that we should not have just because we go 3 and out every series. I don’t expect Stinespring to be the best OC in the world, only a competent one. When the TV announcers are calling the plays before they happen, NOT GOOD!!! When on 3rd down we constantly run pass plays that don’t go past the 1st down marker or we run straight up the gut on 3rd and long, NOT GOOD!!! When Stinespring can call plays that keep drives going the yards gained will naturally increase,offensive scoring will increase, our time of possession will increase and the defense will be more rested and more wins will come. Only when that happens will Stinespring be vindicated in my eyes. The 10 win seasons don’t mean anything when they should have been 11, 12 or 13 win seasons and we stop losing to teams that we shouldn’t have.

by HokieNCO on Aug 17, 2010 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

I want Spiney to

be as good as an OC as he is a recruiter. Thats all.

by hokiewolf on Aug 17, 2010 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Other: Efficiency!

Judge the Hokies’ offense by efficiency and ball control. Stinespring’s offense is built on a run first mentality. In order for his offense to be considered successful, 3rd downs must be converted at near 50% pace, TDs must be scored within the 20, and TOP would ideally land 35/25.

Essentially, in order to be successful, it comes down to play calling and execution. With the talent on offense, Stinespring cannot use youth or some other excuse for lack of execution. So, it’s all on Stinespring, his scheme, and his play calling.

by Chazz Micheal Michealzz on Aug 17, 2010 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Quality of wins

is what I look at. Did our offense tear up a defense like UNC or did we struggle against Duke again? Did our team control the clock against GT and limit the number of 3 and outs we had or did we try to air the ball too often and kept too much time on the clock? Every factor, points and yards, plays into a win. Ultimately, you want your offense to win the game, it’s just a matter of how. Not every game is going to be won by 3 scores or with 400 total yards. Just my thoughts on the matter…

by Hokie_x3_Hi on Aug 18, 2010 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

In other words

the eye test. It’s the best way, but it’s also the hardest way and the hardest way to put on paper.

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by furrer4heisman on Aug 18, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

So true

It’s hard to have exact expectations when every Saturday is different. Having pre-season expectations on how the team should play is often times setting yourself up for failure. It will be easier once the season is over to look back and say “okay, did he do a good job or not?”

by Hokie_x3_Hi on Aug 18, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh?!?!?

You say – “But if we average under five yards per play and go 11-1 will he have failed? Not by a long shot.”

If the offensive average/play is what it was in the ‘06-’08 era, and Bud Foster were somehow still able to get an 11-1 season and ACC title out of the deal with that young of a defense, then Stinespring ought to become a greeter at Walmart and Bud ought to have his bust enshrined in the College Football Hall of Fame IMMEDIATELY. And I’m not convinced that those two things shouldn’t happen anyway.

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by MadJay on Aug 18, 2010 6:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I can see the Flanker screen coming from a mile away....

So why wouldn’t trained d coords and prepared players?

Also, he loves the inside draw out of the shotgun….horrible running play if no push up front.

Listen, I have always thought risking a few more turnovers or giving up a few points isn’t a horrible thing if you score 50….and win 55-28. The old Steve Spurrier model.

We have 4 good WRs, and 3 good RBs and a QB who can run….give them the playbook to make some plays, mistakes be damned. Especially early in the year, because later in the year, they have the confidence to make big plays without worrying about failure. They’ve had repetitions.

 

by flyers13 on Aug 21, 2010 3:14 AM EDT reply actions  

We used to be more liberal and take more chances when Bustle was the O Coord...

Even before Vick…

Shit the offense was more free with Al Clark and some middling skill position players than it has been for Tyrod to this day….

by flyers13 on Aug 21, 2010 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Broncos

They’re coming. Be afraid. Be very afraid!

by bigsky101 on Aug 22, 2010 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

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