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James Madison 21, Virginia Tech 16: Postgame Stream of Consciousness

Alright, it's done. I've watched every snap on ESPN3. In a related story, there is no more alcohol left in this house and I would really appreciate it if one of you would come by and drive me to a convenience store to buy more. KTHXBAI.

Now it's time to get down and dirty and analyze Virginia Tech's first loss to an FCS team in the Beamer era and the second ever loss for a ranked team to an FCS opponent. Let's get the party started. Steve, turn my theme music up.

Steve, I said TURN. MY. THEME. MUSIC. UP.

Star-divide

Oh yeah, we're gonna get all emo up in this piece! I get the feeling I'm gonna be listening to this and The Cure a whole lot this season!

This is going to be a very spiritual, spiritual moment for all of us.

  • It will be much easier to say who isn't to blame for this loss, so I'll make a list: Ryan Williams. The Secondary.
  • Hey! That's it! Everyone else shares in it, evenly. Even me. Trust me, I did something stupid enough today that, karmically, I shouldn't be all that surprised that this happened. But RW and the defensive backs are excused. Go stand over there and watch me and everyone else run stands for the first 30 minutes of practice tomorrow morning.
  • Williams ran like a man possessed today and the secondary wrapped up and had good coverage today. Other than that, everyone sucked.
  • Bryan Stinespring almost gets to watch me run stands, too. I know, that's surprising right? Well, the only reason he gets to run with me is because we should have put up more points in the first half. There were some bogus third down calls in that half that led to us settling for field goals on our last two drives of the first half and first drive of the second. But watch carefully and you'll see he's not at all to blame for the second half.
  • After the field goals, we had drives end on an INT, a fourth down that wasn't converted and a fumble. Now, Stiney obviously didn't throw the INT or fumble the ball on what would ultimately be our final offensive play of the game. But what about that fourth down?
  • At the time, we were down, 21-16 and decided not to kick a field goal that would make it 21-19. We went for it. JMU was obviously going to blitz up the middle to clog rushing lanes and/or get pressure on Tyrod Taylor. So what's the best play to run in that situation? A slant over the middle of the field, which is vacated by the blitz.
  • And guess what? It worked! Jarrett Boykin beat his man over the middle and was open for six. But Tyrod underthrew him and the pass was batted away! Sad face!
  • So why wasn't Ryan Williams in when Darren Evans fumbled on the last drive? Probably because Williams was gassed after his big 16-yard gain two plays earlier when he reversed field on a short pass and then got the first down for Tech. With RW on the bench, DE fumbled and that was it.
  • And the offensive line was a special kind of terrible again today. They consistently gave ground to a defensive front that had no business owning the LOS, considering their size. JMU made it it's mission to stop the run and did it. Kudos to them.
  • What helped was that Tech was never able to be a force in the down-field passing game for two reasons. First, because the rain helped make Tyrod less accurate down field. The weather shouldn't be an excuse because both teams had to deal with it, but for whatever reason Tyrod wasn't very accurate when throwing deep. Also, he didn't have enough time to find open receivers downfield because we still can't pass block. Awesome!
  • Because of this, Tyrod was forced to tuck and run more often than we'd like, which did lead to some good runs, but it wasn't enough to force JMU to do anything than put guys in the box to stuff the run and put pressure on Tyrod.
  • And now, the defense. Holy sweet mother the defense. They couldn't tackle and the linebackers couldn't cover anybody. After Kwamaine Battle was hurt and John Graves had no one to help him at DT we couldn't stop anything up the middle.
  • Without Battle, JMU was able to run Nevada's pistol zone-read option to perfection for over three quarters. We were horrible on both lines, especially on the D-line. Graves was held relatively silent for most of the game. Steven Friday had another sack and looks to be a good pass rusher, but we were never able to get JMU into passing downs. The Dukes just ran the ball down our throats.
  • The Dukes! Ran the ball! Down our throats! Welcome to 2003, everyone. Every team from here on out will try to run the ball up the middle on us and only go away from that when we prove we can stop it consistently. It's the first time since '03 that that's been the case. Even ECU, which runs the Air Raid, will probably run a whole lot of zone-read option out the shotgun that will kill us since the Pirates have a mobile QB in Dominique Davis and a solid running back in Jonathan Williams.
  • And the tackling. Wow, the tackling. Hey, remember in the preseason when I was fretting about Barquell Rivers being out for the first part of the season and you all were like, "Don't fret, F4H, Bruce Taylor has been great in practice?" Remember that? Well, Bruce Taylor is horrible. He can't tackle or cover anyone and we should be praying for Barquell Rivers' quad muscle every night while rubbing buttermilk on it in a hyperbaric chamber.
  • We should be doing the same for Alonzo Tweedy's groin because Jeron Gouveia-Winslow also struggled again. Against JMU. 
  • Now, if at some point during this season we can get a decent pass rush, cover anyone over the middle, tackle consistently and run block efficiently, we'll be fine! Wow, that's a long list! This is going to be great!
  • So, welcome to hell. Were in the 10th circle of hell. This is the season every numskull fan from an opposing team has been waiting for. This is the year we struggle and everyone gets to think is the beginning of the end for our little run of success at football. The big question is whether or not we prove them right.
  • Do we fight back, win some games, compete for the ACC and then return next year and do the same? Or do we go quietly into that good night, prove everyone else right and, years from now, point to this game as the day Virginia Tech football jumped the shark?
  • I hope we fight back and prove to everyone that this is a strong football program that can survive this kind of adversity and use it to get stronger. But, regardless of the answer, I'll be wearing a Virginia Tech polo to work every Monday after a loss. It's far more important to be a Hokie after a loss than a win.
  • And it always will be.
  • F4H. Out.

 

  • Update: After reading the above post, I realize I don't give adequate credit to James Madison, which is a huge error on my part. Drew Dudzik played an amazing game, Mickey Matthews coached an amazing game by implementing the pistol and the JMU defense stopped our bread and butter all day long. Dukes fans should be very, very proud. It's true we did ourselves no favors, but a lot of that was forced by the way JMU played. It was an absolutely outstanding effort on the Dukes' part in every aspect of the game. Congratulations, Dukes, you deserve it. Oh, and Mark is right. This comes down to coaching, straight up. We just got out-coached by a dude named Mickey.

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Heartless

O.K. Heres my take… I was there….
Offense – No Line, cant run, cant pass, when a defender is in your ass period.

Defense – come on, TACKLE, read your keys, got faked out waaaay tooooo much by the spread offense.
Penetration…….. on every play like we should have been doing, versus JMU, and we are 60-0 like the GD scoreboard shoulda been. If our D would have got in the backfield like it should have, then you force them to throw the ball or make the secondary react….we were on our heels and let them MAN HANDLE US by not fireing off the ball.
Finally, and not least of all, NO HEART. This team should have been pissed off and ready to go. Boise game broke our f’n hearts, but guess what, we have been there before, we bounce back the next week and show somebody something. If this loss isn’t enough to make this team hang 45 points on the board against ECU then…….

Again NO HEART (with the exception of a few guys). Yall know who they were!

Hat’s off to JMU, they beat a damn good footballl team that has yet, and may not, reach their potential……suck it up gang, the season just got a little longer!
   

by bighokiefan81 on Sep 12, 2010 1:02 AM EDT reply actions  

who isn't to blame

add the FG unit to that list. 3 for 3. Doesn’t really make me feel any better, though.

by hokiegrad on Sep 12, 2010 5:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I Blame the Coaches and the Upperclassmen

I know the coaches can’t play the game for our guys, but they can sure as heck motivate them. I don’t know what the practice schedule looked like leading up to JMU, but is was obviously ineffective. I think Frank and Co. need to get back to basics with some of these guys and focus on the little things like knowing your zone, tackling, and how to get off the ball with power.

It goes to show that better athletes do not always win. This is comparable to the USA basketball team getting beat by Morocco. 10x better athletes, 10x less heart and desire.

I would take a look at Davon Morgan on those two JMU zone-read TD’s. Not sure exactly what his responsiblity is on that play, but he twice bit hard on the fake which left the boundary side WFO. If he lets the backers take the middle third and plays his side of the field, #9 doesn’t score on either and the pistol is contained and probably averted for the rest of the game.

Finally, I think we have begun to enter the ego-era at VT. We now are getting pretty much every highly-touted player we want in recruiting. As a result, the talent is there, but I bet a lot of these guys are thinking the college game (at any level) is like HS. We all know it is not….not by a long shot. Gone are the days or the Englebergers and Grimms, guys who earned their job, respected their job, and kept their job, because they put out 110% every down. It appears we have a few too-many prima-donnas at every position.

by VTHOKIE2002 on Sep 12, 2010 8:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Darren Evans

With Darren Evans missing a crucial block in the waning minutes of the next to last drive of the Hokies lost to Boise State. And with Darren Evans fumbling the ball on a crucial drive in the last quarter of the Hokies lost to JMU. Have we seen the last of Darren Evans in on crucial drives late in the game? Is this a coaching decision?

BTW .. I expect the Hokies to win next week but loose against Boston College.

by UB on Sep 12, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks...

for the music! It made my morning! And thanks to you I’m wearing Tech colors today. I hope the boys turn this season around fast.

by ALHokieFan on Sep 12, 2010 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Face it

After a hard fought opening game against Boise you had noting in the tank for even a skilled high school team. Your AG who didn’t move this game after the Boise State game is the one that lost it for you.
Mondays game was as physical as they come 4 days is just not enough time to recover.
It’s one of the down sides of Being Boise State, you put such a physical toll on the team you beat they just can’t win their next game really hurts our strength of schedule thingy.

But I ain’t sweating it. The ACC sucks any way you guys will pull it together and do even better then Michigan did when they drop their opener to app state then got blown out but Oregon, they as you might remember went on to spank every big ten team but one and finished by dropping the hammer on T-bone and the gators.
Luckily for you all there is no OSU in your conference so you should easily be able to climb back up the polls and win your conference and still get a BSC bowl.

How about those Bronco’s!

by Darth Prophet on Sep 12, 2010 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Going forward...

Ok, so we all know that this “team” is reeling and many players are not performing as expected. And we know the coaching has been terrible to allow this garbage to take place on the field. But does anyone else out there struggle with the reality that there is nowhere really good to go from here? If we lose a few more and finish in the middle of the ACC, it’s a terrible season. If we win the ACC, we are AGAIN left with thinking about what could have been had we been prepared for the first two games. I don’t know what is worse at this point. Aren’t we all pretty tired of being that team that is usually tops in the ACC but is just a pretender in the national tiutle picture? It’s a broken record.

by loa777 on Sep 12, 2010 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

BSU Fans Please Leave Our Blog

You guys are pathetic. And you National Championship hopes are gone (as they should be). Go blog on you websites, as we don’t care about what you have to say.

by VTHOKIE2002 on Sep 12, 2010 11:32 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Looks like somebody's still bitter.

Us Boise fans are here because, by losing to an FCS team (which actually IS pathetic, and VT fans have admitted this), your Hokies put a damper on our title hopes.

“We don’t care about what you have to say” – what a lovely way to represent VT fans! I give the fanbase a lot of props for respecting Boise leading up to, during, and after the game, but evidently, you didn’t get that memo.

Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Gators // Boise State
"We're just the same old Clippers. That's all we are. We're just the same old Clippers. We want teams to continue to take us lightly."
- Sam Cassell

by 82-0 on Sep 12, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess

they wanted to finish monday’s work and ruin BSU’s national championship hopes? So they hit em where it counts, below the belt? Took one for the BCS AQ team? Fans of BCS teams, rather than laughing at us, should be thanking us.

But in all honesty, this is different than Michigan losing to App State. Not nearly on the same scale. But we cannot allow this to end our season early. Looks like Beamer is going to have to put up another fine coaching job.

by VT89 on Sep 12, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't Forget

that Michigan beat Florida in a New Year’s Day bowl game that year.

by ZacharyD on Sep 12, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someday Mickey Matthews

will be coaching a major program. By all reports he’s happy in Harrisonburg and not interested in other jobs, but that was when the other schools calling were places like North Texas (and also he didn’t want to move until his children finished high school). As a head coach he won a National Title at JMU – and he was defensive coordinator for Marshall when they won several National Titles. If I recall correctly when JMU hired him as head coach he was Defensive Coordinator of Georgia. He has a record of coaching up talent – three of his former defensive players are now in the NFL – one, Akeem Jordan, is a starter for the Philadelphia Eagles.
 
As someone who grew up in Harrisonburg and has followed JMU for years, I’m surprised that he hasn’t attracted interest from major programs.

Virginia Tech could still win the ACC – it appears to be a wide open race.

by ZacharyD on Sep 12, 2010 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Offensive Line

What can be done to provide better pass protection? Through two games it is obvious that the VT offensive line pass protection is one of its weakest components of the team. The guys seem to be playing hard it’s something else. Could it be that the defensive linemen for Boise State and JMU are actually better, more skilled, more physical, quicker, faster, stronger than the VT offensive linemen?

Even on the failed 4th down conversion it seemed that TT felt pressured and rushed his pass thus missing the wide open receiver across the middle and essentially sealing our fate to another loss.

by UB on Sep 12, 2010 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

the loss

(This post probably could be somewhere else, but….)

Am I the only one who wasn’t that phased by this loss? Do I hate the loss? Yes.

But I guess after being devastated following the Monday night loss, this loss just continued my funk that was in all week. If I was feeling like a “1” on a scale of 1 – 10 on Tuesday morning, this loss didn’t really put me below that. It just sort of extended the shock from Monday.

BTW: Does anyone know the last time VT receive no votes in the Top 25?

by VT1996 on Sep 12, 2010 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

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