Gobbler Country's Preliminary Week 5 BlogPoll Ballot
by furrer4heisman on Sep 26, 2010 1:59 PM EDT
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PrintThe Top 7 remains the same. Big movers are NC State, which enters the poll at No. 14 and Texas, which drops 14 spots after getting embarrassed at home by UCLA.
The final draft is due Wednesday morning, so you have plenty of time to state your case as to who should move up or down. If you think one team's ranked too high, don't just say, "That team sucks, move them down!" Let me know why they suck and who should be ranked ahead of them.
Games Watched: Miami at Pittsburgh, Virginia Tech at Boston College, Alabama at Arkansas (75%), UCLA at Texas (25%), Oklahoma at Cincinnati, South Carolina at Auburn (50%), Cal at Arizona (25%), Oregon at Arizona State (75%)
Gobbler Country Ballot - Week 5
| Rank | Team | Delta |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Alabama Crimson Tide | -- |
| 2 | Boise St. Broncos | -- |
| 3 | Ohio St. Buckeyes | -- |
| 4 | TCU Horned Frogs | -- |
| 5 | Oregon Ducks | -- |
| 6 | Nebraska Cornhuskers | -- |
| 7 | Arizona Wildcats | -- |
| 8 | Wisconsin Badgers |  2 |
| 9 | Oklahoma Sooners | -- |
| 10 | Florida Gators | 1 |
| 11 | Stanford Cardinal | 2 |
| 12 | Auburn Tigers | 2 |
| 13 | Miami Hurricanes | 3 |
| 14 | N.C. State Wolfpack | -- |
| 15 | Iowa Hawkeyes | -- |
| 16 | Arkansas Razorbacks |  -4 |
| 17 | Utah Utes | 1 |
| 18 | USC Trojans | 4 |
| 19 | Penn St. Nittany Lions | -- |
| 20 | LSU Tigers | -- |
| 21 | Nevada Wolf Pack | -- |
| 22 | Texas Longhorns | -14 |
| 23 | Michigan Wolverines | -- |
| 24 | Michigan St. Spartans | -- |
| 25 | South Carolina Gamecocks | -8 |
| Dropouts: West Virginia Mountaineers, Boston College Eagles | ||
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- Oklahoma looked bad at times against Cincinnati, but the Bearcats (especially their defense) looked a lot better than we saw against NC State. The Sooners do get jumped by Wisconsin, whose win over Arizona State looks a lot better after the Sun Devils defense was able to slow down Oregon.
- Both Nebraska and Arizona stay put after having uninspired performances against South Dakota State and Cal.
- Miami also jumped a couple of teams after dominating on the road against a BCS team. Pitt may or may not be worth anything, but right now that win looks good for the Canes.
- Obviously, I dinged Arkansas a lot less for losing to the No. 1 team in the country than I did Texas for losing to an unranked UCLA.
- Nevada also enters the poll after winning in Provo. BYU is a solid road win.
- Teams that almost made the poll include, in no particular order: Air Force, Missouri and Florida State.
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Boise still doesn’t look like a #2 to me. Solid, but not that impressive. VT hasn’t started the season the way we hoped, and Oregon State should never have been ranked. So winning those games just shows they’re top 15 or 20… nothing more. I’d probably give them the benefit of the doubt and throw them in the top 10, but there’s no way I’d put them above Ohio St, Nebraska, or Oregon. The last part of that pretty much also goes for TCU,
I don’t understand the love affair the media seems to have with Utah all the sudden after they beat Pitt. Pitt has turned out to be… well, nothing special. What has Utah really shown us? I’d have them around Air Force and Nevada in the 20-25 range. Maybe in the 15-20 range if
Arkansas sure looks better than #16 to me. Hard to hold a close loss against Alabama against them too much. I’d certainly have them above…
NCSU up at 14 all the sudden? I wish… have they looked pretty good? Yes. Does beating this year’s GT team take them from unranked to #14? Heck no, not the way GT has looked. Need to see more from them (next week?). Drop ’em in around #22 or something.
I grew up an Auburn fan, and I hate Miami, but I think the Hurricanes look like the better team so far. Had a host of bad breaks in the OSU game.
Wouldn’t drop South Carolina nearly that far, though. I still think that looks like a very good team… top 20 material.
I'm not ranking Miami
with one loss above an Auburn team that’s 4-0 with wins over Clemson and South Carolina. You may think Miami looks better, but I certainly don’t I actually think I’m being unfair to Auburn having it so low. Really, it should be at around No. 8.
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by furrer4heisman on Sep 26, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of South Carolina
I think that they’re around the same level of Arkansas. I’d have them around the 17-19 range.
I also think Oklahoma and Arizona should both be just above Utah. They have not impressed me so far.
As for the top, it’s still Alabama and then 2-6 are all interchangeable at this point in the season so I can’t really argue with that.
Oklahoma didn't impress you
while it was trouncing FSU? The Sooners didn’t look as bad against Cincy as guys like Gregg Doyel are making it sound like. Plus, they usually play bad the week before Texas. Remember in 2007 when they lost to Colorado in Boulder the week before the Texas game? Or last year when they led Baylor 14-7 at the half? Or 2002 when they had to run a fake field goal to beat Mizzou?
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by furrer4heisman on Sep 27, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Is trouncing any ACC team really that impressive anymore?
It’s pretty much an annual ritual at this point.
I just think that Florida, Stanford, Auburn, and Arkansas have all looked better than them.
That game was impressive, yes. None of their other games have been. You have to look at more than 1 game. Any team can have one outstanding game where everything just goes their way.
You mean like
Miami against Pitt?
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by furrer4heisman on Sep 28, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Miami is ranked too high as it is
they beat Florida A&M (FCS team) and Pitt, but lost to Ohio State.
CTOB
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But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782
Weren’t 3 of the interceptions in the OSU game tipped off the receivers hands? That’s just rotten luck. Take out 2 of those, and Miami most likely wins.
so, Miami's receivers are unable to haul in a pass
and the defenders, doing their job, take advantage of the situation and we should consider that “just rotten luck”? By that logic “just rotten luck” would be the ref just happening to see a holding penalty and flag it because we all know that holding happens all the time on practically every play. If Miami is all that then when their receivers are well defended they should still do their job and catch that ball, barring of course actually pass interference.
CTOB
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But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782
Why ding Arkansas at all?
What did you expect the score difference to be when #1 played #10? I’m not a fan of dropping a team just because they lost unless that loss showed they were ranked incorrectly to begin with. They lost to #1 by 4 points – I would call that a top 10 team.
I agree
Why does ’Bama get so much love for only barely beating Arkansas? If ’Bama were such a powerhouse, there would never have been any doubt about how that game would end. Same for South Carolina/Auburn. The rankings for SC and Auburn were not that far apart and Auburn did not own SC in that win. Why should SC fall so far for a quality loss? Quite often people say that Team A is ranked the way they are because of “quality” wins? What about quality losses? A game that is close and well played, on both sides of the ball?
And . . why beat up on Boise State? Like it or not, they have not lost a game since December, 2008, just like Alabama. While their “strength of schedule” may be debatable, the fact still remains, they have not lost a game in quite some time. How many teams can say the same thing?
Finally, why does anyone rank USC at all? Isn’t that a waste of a vote? Since they are banned from playing in a bowl, and everyone seems to place so much stock in rankings, it seems to me that ranking USC is just an exercise in futility.
CTOB
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But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782
So far Boise State has beaten
two Top 25 teams and won a road game. You take into account current strength of schedule, not future strength of schedule.
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by furrer4heisman on Sep 28, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m talking about current strength of schedule. They haven’t beaten anyone who’s currently ranked in the top 25. What they were ranked when the game was played is irrelevant. If they don’t look good enough to be in the top 25 after 4 weeks, they probably weren’t playing too well when you played them, now were they? And the road game was against Wyoming… please don’t try to tell me that counts for much. Wyoming’s only win was at home against Southern Utah, who’s only win was at home against San Diego… we’re talking real powerhouses there.
Tech was ranked when Boise beat us. And, that was a road game for Boise State, both because BSU was listed as the “visitors” and because they traveled across the country to play that game, i.e., road game for BSU. Because Tech was ranked at the time the game was played, that win qualifies as a defeat of a ranked team. And, depending on which poll you reference, Oregon State was ranked when Boise State beat them. Therefore, another defeat of a ranked team. Obviously if two ranked teams play one another, the outcome of the game will affect the rankings. It is inevitable that ranked teams will fall out of the rankings. But, the rankings which were effective at the time of the game will continue to be considered for statistical purposes.
CTOB
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But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782
hypocritical
“the talking heads” constantly remind us that Alabama hasn’t been beaten since Dec 2008. Those same “talking heads” constantly hypothesis that Boise State is overrated while conveniently ignoring the fact that Boise State hasn’t lost since Dec 2008. Also, when discussing the team dujour, “the talking heads” talk out of both sides of their mouths. For one team, let’s say “Team A” who lost, it is called a “quality loss” but for Team B that won in a different game it was a “quality win”. But use the same two teams and turn it around (Team A wins and Team B loses) the same “talking heads” will demoan B for its loss and gloss over A’ win, no more discussion of “quality win/loss”. It is hypocritical and it is the reason I choose to read from several sources and make my own conclusions as opposed to being spoon fed from a self-anointed stat king talking head who only thinks his opinion/information matters.
CTOB
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But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782
(my comments are really in response to “hokiegrad” not “F4H” . . the position of the post doesn’t really let you know that!)
CTOB
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But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782
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