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Should Virginia Tech Switch to the 3-4 Defense?

The Hokies will be deep at linebacker next season. (Photo by Geoff Burke/Getty Images)

One of Bud Foster's best characteristics is his ability to adapt his defense to the personnel he has and to what other teams are doing to attack the Hokies.

Tech used to run more of a 4-4 defense until after the 2003 season when Cal's offense throttled the Tech defense in the Copper Bowl. The success pass-heavy offenses had against the Hokies coupled with better talent coming into the program led to the switch to Tech's current defense, which is a version of the 4-4 that uses two hybrid players (the rover and whip linebacker).

Could another shellacking at the hands of a Pac 10 team in a bowl game lead to another change in Foster's defensive philosophy? Should the Hokies follow the current trend in college football and switch to the 3-4?

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Defensive Tackle Depth a Concern

The Hokies have had their share of talented players come through its linebacking corps and secondary. However, one of Tech's weaknesses has always been size and depth in the front seven, particularly on the defensive line. This past year was no different.

The Hokies have several promising young players at linebacker and defensive end, but are far from deep at defensive tackle, which has been commonplace. However, we do have one massive option at defensive tackle in Nick Acree. Acree, who redshirted this year, is 6-5 and was listed at 295 pounds. Under Mike Gentry's strength and conditioning program, it's likely he'll wind up well over 300.

In order for the 3-4 to be effective, you need a big run-stopping defensive tackle or you'll wind up getting killed on the ground. Could Acree be the anchor defensive tackle the Hokies need to make a possible switch? If he can, it would hide Tech's issues with defensive tackle depth.

Whipping the Whip

Another weakness for Virginia Tech's defense is the size of its front seven, which didn't match up well with Stanford's large offensive line. The Hokies struggled against the run throughout 2010 and a lot of it had to do with their size disadvantage.

What really hurts the Hokies size-wise is the whip linebacker position. This hybrid outside linebacker is often called upon to rush the passer and as is lined up on the wide side of the field with the field corner, so he needs to be able to cover a lot of ground.

This has led to Tech using smaller, quicker LB/Safety tweeners at the position with varying results. At 6-2 207 pounds, Jereon Gouveia-Winslow is pretty small to be playing linebacker. Boston College runs a defense that's somewhat similar to Tech's and had Mark Herzlich lined up at SLB, which lines up on the wide side of the field. Herzlich goes 6-4, 244. This led to a bulky BC D that gave up 2.6 ypc in ACC play last year.

Going to the 3-4 could help Tech's problems with size up front. The difficult part would be finding outside linebackers that combine size with speed.

Already Using 3-Man Fronts

While they haven't used the 3-4 this year, Tech was forced to go with a three-man front often this season, especially early on. Tech went with a "30" stack defense that had three down linemen, three linebackers and five defensive backs. This was done to get young defensive backs Antone Exum and Kyle Fuller on the field more often.

As college football's offenses have evolved and started spreading the field, defenses have responded and a lot of them are using the 3-4 to counter it. Would it work for the Hokies? It's possible, but there are for more traditional and pro-style offenses in the ACC than there are spread offenses.

While the 3-4 could be a better fit for the personnel the Hokies are going to have the next couple years, it might give its ACC opponents. The Hokies' power run game has done well against 3-4 defenses in the past, but was shut down by teams like Alabama and Stanford who had the big run-stopping DTs it requires to succeed.

Now it's your turn to weigh in on this. The Hokies' defense has evolved a lot under Foster. Is the 3-4 the next step in its evolution? Should he and Frank Beamer consider tweaking the Hokies' defensive philosophy yet again?

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I kind of like the idea of the 3-4

For several of the same reasons you mentioned but mainly the defensive tackle depth issue. Acree will be a stud I think, given on what I’ve seen in the handful of scrimmages and high school film. The Hokies like to rotate defensive line players a lot too (seeing a lot of Gayle and Collins this year) and with the 3-4 they could rotate even more since there’s one less player to give a rest to.

As far as the outside linebackers go, my vote is for Chase Williams. He was pretty damn impressive in the scrimmages I saw and I think his time is very soon. He’s got good size too at 6’1 231 lbs. And as if JGW wasn’t small enough, Tweedy tips the scales at 188.

by Casey Richey on Jan 10, 2011 8:33 AM EST reply actions  

don’t dislike the idea of running a 3-4 someday, but I’m not as convinced that we have the personnel to make it work in 2011. Isn’t Acree supposed to be extremely raw, a physical specimen more than an experienced football player? Do you think he’ll be ready to contribute much in 2011? That would be a surprise to me. And even if Acree becomes an outstanding DT, we’d need some depth there… not sure our current roster or what we have coming in provides that. Would we end up with too many DEs (perfect fit for Harley?), but not enough DTs and several players who no longer fit anywhere.

Agree with the comment about Chase Williams. If he hadn’t gotten hurt last year, he would not have redshirted. I think we’d have seen him come on as the season went along. Expect good things from him in 2011. I’m thinking Chase at whip, Barquell at mike, and Taylor at backer. We shall see.

by hokiegrad on Jan 10, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a bad idea

For one, schools recruiting against VT couldn’t say that “you can’t have success in the NFL in the VT defense”. But like Georgia Tech, I think it would take some time to fully settle in and find the right types of players. Defensive ends like Marshall and Drager are close to the right size for a 3-4 DE, but we couldn’t play anymore 240 pound defensive lineman. Since we don’t have access to the recruiting pools that Alabama does, I wonder if we would struggle to find the right blend of size and speed especially at the linebacker level.

I think a quick fix would be to scrap the whip position altogether and play three heavy linebackers. If the defense is designed to funnel the ball to your linebackers, and your whip is the play-making position, and you have a whip who would whiff on an open Sean Glennon, then you have to find a way to adjust. JGW and Tweedy can be great as gunners on special teams, but please let Taylor, Rivers, and Williams be the three linebackers next season.

by JPCVT on Jan 10, 2011 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

size

A 3-4 in college is very difficult to run effectively without the horses, and SEC schools are really the only ones able to recruit at that level (UVA couldn’t quite do it, GT won’t either). A Boston College 4-3 is where we should be looking: decent-sized LBs across the field with a LARGE line (think 2008 BC). They are always studs against the run, and VT can recruit at the same level if not better for that scheme. The consistency of the VT secondary combined with this run-stopping 7 man front could get things back on track. It may also help recruiting in that it’s closer to an NFL 4-3.

by JotunVT on Jan 10, 2011 10:35 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

JotunVT is on the right track. A 3-4 isn’t attractive for high school defensive linemen who want to play in the NFL. It requires the defensive line to eat up blocks and allow linemen to make plays. It also puts a tremendous amount of pressure on OLB’s (most of whom played defensive end in high school) to be both pass rushers and cover the pass.

I am totally in agreement with JotunVT. A traditional 4-3, built on a strategy using large defensive tackles to draw double teams coupled with up the field DE’s is the most attractive alignment for recruiting. Bud Foster’s success in the last couple of seasons has stemmed from excellent cornerback talent coupled with excellent coaching of “robber coverages” which bait young QB’s to throw into dangerous spots because they look open. Switching from the current 4-2-5 hybrid defense doesn’t change that because the weakside OLB would have most of the same pass defense responsibilities as a whip, and the rover wouldn’t be up near the line as much.

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by french60wasp on Jan 10, 2011 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

A 3-4 isn’t attractive for high school defensive linemen who want to play in the NFL.

Or players getting a 7 year $100 million contract haha

by Casey Richey on Jan 10, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

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