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Clemson 38, Virginia Tech 10: Postgame Stream of Consciousness

CHARLOTTE, NC - DECEMBER 03:  Logan Thomas #3 of the Virginia Tech Hokies is sacked during the ACC Championship game against the Clemson Tigers at Bank of America Stadium on December 3, 2011 in Charlotte, North Carolina.  (Photo by Mike Ehrmann/Getty Images)

At the end of the day, Clemson was a better team that played better than we did.

As I said before, the Tigers' problems in their previous four games coming into today had nothing to do with their abilities or X's and O's. Their problems were mostly mental as well as problems with execution. They fixed those problems in a big way Saturday night against the Hokies to win their first conference title since 1991.

We knew coming in the Hokies were going to have contain Andre Ellington and Dwayne Allen on defense and Andre Branch on offense. Well, Tech went 0-for-3 against those guys today and were whipped up front. They couldn't run the ball, couldn't stop the run, couldn't protect their quarterback, couldn't get adequate pressure on the other team's quarterback and didn't win turnover battle.

As we saw in our game against Virginia, that's how you get blown out.

Star-divide

A lot of Hokie fans I saw on Twitter and in the game thread want to blame the refs. Uh, we lost by 28 points. So no. Clemson played better than we did. End of story. They earned their championship and the right to go to the Orange Bowl. The defense was banged up and Clemson took advantage of its weaknesses. The offense couldn't run the ball and Clemson took advantage of that as well.

Nothing went right for the Hokies tonight, but a lot of the credit should go to Clemson owning the line of scrimmage and forcing us to play from behind. Something didn't seem right for Tech from the beginning. From Thomas' fumble on the first play to Jayron Hosley's injury early in the game to David Wilson only getting 11 carries (six in the first half).

Sadly, it's the kind of game we're used to seeing in big games from the Hokies. Just when we start to believe it when people say there's no way we can lose, we go out and lay a big, perfectly formed egg. That part is disappointing. What isn't disappointing was how this team played and progressed throughout the season leading up to tonight, but tonight was definitely disappointing.

Good team, good season, bad night. On to Atlanta.

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I have played football at a high level, and currently coach it. This is the most mentally and physically demanding sport in the world. Sometimes it is not your night. And sometimes, match-ups by position, can help ruin your night. A little of both happened here.

Something for some of the younger Hokie nation to think about:
I have watched this team play since the 70’s and 80’s. Yes, the bad times. I see too many Hokies dying for national championships. I can remember hoping that the place would just be packed. I see many belly aching for ACC championships. I can remember praying to be competitive against UVA. Beamer has done something that I could have never imagined 30 years ago. But remember, he did not do it alone. It took a lot of fan, alumni, and university support to get there. We are very lucky. I grew up with a SEC father (Tennessee), but we lived in VT country. I went to both games on alternate weekends for 18 years. We ain’t SEC football, but who could imagine how close the atmosphere would be at this time. Enjoy where we are Hokies. It doesn’t get much better. We have had a solid season in spite of injuries, and youthfulness. Take pride in these boys, for they may be gone before your know it.

by HOKIESTONES on Dec 4, 2011 12:50 AM EST reply actions  

Well said

Anyone old enough to remember what a decidedly small time operation this was under Sharpe and (especially) Dooley knows how good this is in comparison.

by Sam Jethroe on Dec 4, 2011 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Tough loss Hokies but congrats on a good season

Believe me when I say this, no one is more surprised than me that we won this game like this.

If you have seen Clemson play the past month…well… let’s just say it has been ugly.

I expected VT to win by 35 points. Really. Somehow our team remembered how to play football again.

I think maybe VT players saw the film, were on a big winning streak, and expected to blow us out. as well. Who can blame them as we have been the worst team in America for the past month? But we somehow put it all together tonight.

Anyway you have a good future at QB and 11-2 and beating your state rival is a pretty darn good year. I hope you play some SEC team (like the chickens) and blow them away.

by Cristo on Dec 4, 2011 1:08 AM EST reply actions  

Good comments

Especially those paragraphs after the jump……I have no idea what was wrong with Clemson the past month, but they are a hell of a team: fast, strong, and talented. We knew going into the season that we needed to rebuild and replace a lot this year, and the injuries to some of our experienced players really hurt. But the boys delivered another Coastal championship, another 10+ wins, another ACC player of the year, continued domination of the Hoos and the Canes, and heading to another quality bowl. The #5 ranking and darkhorse NCG label was just sillytalk.

by Pav61 on Dec 4, 2011 7:14 AM EST reply actions  

Second Fiddle

Yea, I understand all that has been posted. While the refs made a lot of calls that did not go our way, it was more about the calls they did not make. David Wilson was held every time he went out as a secondary receiver, it was so apparent on one screen play even my 10 year old pointed it out? But the bottom line is VT is not as good as Clemson. We were beat down by 48 points in two games. We could play them 10 times and I give us no chance of winning once. The Clemson coaches know every VT tendency on both offence and defense. Our coaches don’t get it. Not one new wrinkle…no in game adjustments….nothing new. Dabo is an average coach, simply a cheer leader and Ra Ra guy who likes to talk smack with his players. His assistant coaches ate us up, so for the future, because Clemson will likely continue to out recruit us we need to get a better coaching strategy and open up the playbook or there will be a new king on the ACC block….

by LJCool on Dec 4, 2011 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

Refund, please

There is no excuse for our team getting manhandled all night like that. There was not one phase of the game where we looked like a disciplined, well-coached team. We saw enough throughout the season to know that our team had personnel capable of playing with anyone, as long as they showed up and executed. Last night was a joke and the fans who made the trip should get their money back. While we weren’t playing great, we got through the first half fine. Then in the second half, instead of making adjustments and getting some fire lit under some asses, we came out looking like assclowns who didn’t belong in the ACCCG. I don’t know whether the game plan was garbage and made the players lose confidence, or if the players were not well prepared, but some much went wrong that I law blame on Beamer and his staff. Beamer just sat on that sideline with that grimace on his face that we see every time we are getting beat down in an important game. Very disappointed in HOW we lost.

by loa777 on Dec 4, 2011 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

If you look at our last three losses (Stanford, Clemson) the half time score was 10-9, 10-3, 10-10 and in all three we get blown out in the 2nd half. Come on Man, I would rather lose a regular season game to an ACC conference foe than continue to lose on national TV in a meaningful game. Kirk Herbstreet, blasted us on the BCS countdown show as “overrated” and then witnessed it for himself. VERY DISSAPOINTING…Please coaches for once get them ready to play in a big game. This group is a little different than previous teams…seems they since the lack of a “connection” between players and coaches, and if the game plan stinks they want no part of it….

by LJCool on Dec 4, 2011 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

If you had told me

that Clemson would be the team controlling the line of scrimmage in this game I would have laughed in your face. Our lines really stepped up and we were able to beat a very good VT team which I have nothing but respect for.

Rumors are that y’all might get a Sugar Bowl bid, if so, I hope we can both represent the ACC really well.

by PenthouseTiger on Dec 4, 2011 7:12 PM EST reply actions  

all good comments

but also not having hosley killed us. Bonner and Hill were both playing scared of getting beat deep. They were so far off and immediately bailing out and clemson completed underneath all night. The one time where Hill got beat deep was beacause he was so far off he had to overact on the first move then was in no position to recover on the double move

by jmpecker on Dec 4, 2011 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

Should have Sat Bonner

I think the move after Hosley went out was to shift Kile Fuller to CB and have Tweety play Rover. Fuller was not playing the Rover position in this game as well as he has played CB earlier in the year and has more experience at the position. Tweety brings more speed and is one of the best tackler on the team. The playes Tweety was in he was effective. As for the Chick-Fil-A bowl…I went to the game in Atlanta 2 years ago and it was a much better experience than the3 Orange bowl last year. I have been to 4 Orange Bowls and in my opinion it has really fallen off. Not nearly the experience!

by LJCool on Dec 4, 2011 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

Well I stuck my foot in my mouth

But I said what I felt and I meant it. Unfortunately Tech decided to look like fools and to make me look like one in the process. I still think we lost to an inferior team, but it’s VERY hard to make that kind of argument now.

by chicagomaroon on Dec 4, 2011 8:42 PM EST reply actions  

And furrer I agree, the refs didn't lose us the game

WE lost the game. But the refs played a prominent role in deciding the margin.

by chicagomaroon on Dec 4, 2011 9:00 PM EST reply actions  

Sick of it...

I understand where this team started so long ago, and how many fans can remember chasing dreams of beating UVA and just having a good team year in and year out. I mean who would have thought we’d be where we are as a program now, back in 80s and early 90s. However, we’ve HAD a program that’s put a statement on college football since that time. I am thankful for the program we have. Lord knows, cause I thank him every chance I get.
I don’t know how else to say this, but I’m sick of blowing games like this. Start the game good and even with are opponet, and then comes the 2nd half. It happen last year in the orange bowl. AGAIN. It happen to Georgia in 07, happen against UK jayhawks. The boise game and Alabama games were not the same. We played well, just didn’t win and I can understand that. But losing game like this is just getting old. Its like the other team gets a copy of BUD’s playbook. We play flat, tired, sick and just don’t play. You can say what you want, O-fence didn’t get it done, specail teams blah blah blah. Most of this is on the D. 28 points in the second have. Forget starters not being in. WE HAVE A GREAT PROGRAM and should and DO have players that can take over. Execpt O-line. Thats the biggest let down every year. O line, we have to do a better job of getting better talent on the O line, but thats for another post. Bottom line is, this always happens to us and I’m sick of it. Tired. Tired of hearing how overrated we are. Tired of hearing we’re good cause the rest of the ACC is down. What will it take to make sure the players go to the bowl game that yes, they have earned, and play like is a BIG TIME BOWL, cause it is! Ok, we understand that they should have a good time as players on th bowl trip. However, what about the fans who are there for this team year in and year out. What about us. The Fans. Don’t get me wrong, please, I am a fan and love where are program is. But in order to take it to the next level, which is not that far, we have to start playing these games not just for the players and fans, but for those who doubt…

Whoever said, 'It's not whether you win or lose that counts,' probably lost.
Martina Navratilova

by Greathokie on Dec 5, 2011 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

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