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Virginia Tech is Not Pre-Destined to Win a College Football National Championship

I spend a good deal of time last week hating on various people. I hated on Frank Beamer, the rest of the coaching staff and then finally the incoming freshman class. It seemed no stone was left unturned. Well, if I'm going to spend all that time talking trash about those inside the program, equal time needs to be given.

That's right, it's time to hate on us. Me, you, the fans. Our uppance has come. There's a large segment of our fan base, and I include myself, that doesn't really appreciate the level Virginia Tech football has reached. We're disappointed in losses to teams that in all honest are a lot better than us, in recruiting classes that rank in the top third nationally and sometimes in the general direction of the football program.

We act like a national championship is our birthright when reality couldn't be further from the truth.

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It's is damn hard to win a national championship in college football. For a team like Virginia Tech, which has never won a title, doesn't have the tradition of excellence some teams have and doesn't play in the SEC, it's even harder. To even play for a national title, the Hokies would have to go undefeated and get lucky.

Then, they would have to win a game against a Top 5 team, something we don't exactly have a history of doing. There are plenty of teams like Virginia Tech out there. Wisconsin, Oregon, Iowa and West Virginia have been very good during the BCS era, have won their share of conference title and have only one championship game appearance between them.

The point is that breaking through to the elite level takes time and getting there isn't a given. It isn't a given that Oregon will make another national championship game appearance in the very near future. The Ducks could wind up like Tech and spend the next 10 years trying to make it back to the sport's biggest stage.

Other teams, like Clemson, Washington, Colorado and Georgia Tech, did break through and win a national title in modern times. None of them are close to college football royalty right now. Once you get there, there's no guarantee you won't slip back into obscurity.

Currently, Virginia Tech has a streak of seven consecutive 10-win seasons, a fact spouted out so often by Frank Beamer that some fans have become sickened by it. But it's something we should appreciate because of where this program has been. We used to be nothing and now we're a team that wins consistently and does it the right way.

The flip side of that is the coaches have built the program into something maybe even they couldn't have imagined and with that comes increased expectations that they may or may not be ready to be held to. I wouldn't be surprised if the people close to the program feel unappreciated for what they've built, but at the same time their success is what created the monster.

I spent a lot of time last season complaining that Boise State fans didn't know how to act like real football fans because they'd never experienced the same level of disappointment fan bases of top and elite level teams have faced. Now that they've lost to Nevada, they have that.

Well, our fan base needs to learn to act like one that's been there before. If we lose to a team that's better than us at the time we play them, let it go. We're not Alabama, Ohio State or Oklahoma. There's no championship tradition to be held to. We can't sit there and grovel that the Hokies should be playing in the national title game when we lost to James Madison. It's petty and annoying. Enjoy the damn title game without bitching and moaning like a petulant child.

If we're going to hold our coaches and players to a standard that's higher than one they've ever actually achieved we have to do the same for ourselves. Calling for the guillotine when something's imperfect and not appreciating where the level the program is at now isn't the way we should be doing things.

We act like we're thiiiiiiis close to winning a title when really, we aren't. We're in the same neighborhood as winning a title, but we're not banging on its front door. In reality, the program probably has an equal chance of winning the national title and regressing to the mean. It's OK to hope for a national title and have a level of disappointment when we don't get there. However, we should probably appreciate where we are now in case of the latter.

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So true

Great post! Yes, we as fans want more than just ACC titles. We want a national title and our cake too! However, to forget where we came from and what the team means to everyday “blue color” people, we have to thank goodness we have what we have. To have 7 ten win seasons and going 8-0 in ACC play this past season says we’re headed the right way . Will we ever win a NC, no one knows. Just be happy were we are now. It may not be this good later!

by Greathokie on Feb 8, 2011 9:52 AM EST reply actions  

One of the best posts I've read here

Maybe the best. “We act like we’re thiiiiiiis close to winning a title when really, we aren’t.” That sums it up beautifully. We lose to teams like LSU and Alabama because we aren’t on their level yet, plain and simple. We have a poor record against the Top 5 because we’re not stocked with Top 5 material. Top 25, yes, but not Top 5.

That’s why all this griping about Beamer and the suggestions among a certain fan segment that its “time for him to go,” etc, annoys me so much. I’m not suggesting he’s perfect or that some changes aren’t in order. And, hell maybe he is too old change, in which case there might be some frustrating years ahead until he decides to leave. But this idea that the VT coaching job is some premier post , and that a coaching change will automatically result in an improved performance on the field, and that the program just needs one final shove to get to the mountaintop, is nuts. If you’re going to whine about 10-2 seasons, fine, but remember this: from that perch, there’s not much room to move up, but a mighty long way to fall.

by BleauxLeaux on Feb 8, 2011 9:56 AM EST reply actions  

Good point on the coaching change...

Everybody who thinks that forcing Beamer out is going to result in instant NCG, just add water, is terribly mistaken. Look at Miami. That program has great tradition. They fired their coach, and look who they ended up with. The guy from TEMPLE.

If Beamer is forced out, it isn’t like Belichick is going to address the media to explain that he’s leaving the Patriots to coach the Hokies because he’s always dreamed of coaching in Blacksburg.

by Leonard Thompson on Feb 8, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it's ironic...

First – good post. I appreciate this program very much. What is frustrating for me though, and it seems very ironic, is that the teams that are beating VT, particularly this year – Boise and Stanford, are beating VT like VT used to beat up people in the mid 90’s. A lot of your naysayers will say that the program needs to take a new direction, because what Beamer used to do doesn’t work anymore.

I would say the opposite. I believe VT needs to get back to the VT of old. A tough-get-after-you-on-every-down defensive line, a big offensive line, and nasty special teams. People used to be afraid on 4th and punt when they played VT. This year, a lot of times, it seemed that Special teams were a liability.

The Orange Bowl has to be the watershed moment for this program. VT was stronger, and faster than Stanford, yet they were TOYING with the Hokies by the 4th qtr. This current crop of Hokies must get back to fundamentals, and toughen up. Beamer needs to make like Rocky Balboa in the Rocky III, and get that eye of the tiger back. That would be almost as enjoyable to watch as a NCG.

by Leonard Thompson on Feb 8, 2011 10:11 AM EST reply actions  

VT was faster but clearly not stronger. How that is being argued, I have no idea.

'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'11: Conference Champions?

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by Bud Elliott on Feb 8, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Enh - Hope is not a stategy

This discussion is always about expectations. If you think something is unlikely, then it won’t happen. If you actively try to make it happen, then you have a shot.

Appreciation for what you now have has nothing to do with it.

Most VT fans, those of us who went to VT (especially back in the pre-Beamer days) remember what it was like. And we love who VT is now. We’ve been this for 15 years now.

But is expecting VT to make changes to go after a national championship – when there is an empty trophy case at VT now – asking so much? And does talking about changes mean that fans don’t support VT?

This isn’t an us vs. them discussion. We are all “us.” I don’t know why some people keep insisting that VT fans should be complacent.

by Ottis on Feb 8, 2011 12:33 PM EST reply actions  

I think there's a difference between

being complacent and just not acting spoiled. It’s a fine line, but it’s there.

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by furrer4heisman on Feb 8, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Can I...

Still bitch about the Cubs? I feel like I have that right.

by Cat Drink Beer on Feb 8, 2011 1:17 PM EST reply actions  

elite

I don’t think it’s really about us not being one of those 5-10 elite schools with all the history and everything. The richest kids in the world can act spoiled just as well as (more so?) the slightly less rich kids in the next tier. Point is, acting spoiled is bad. Should we be complacent? No. Should we be striving for improvement? Absolutely. Should we appreciate what we have at the same time, and strive for improvement in a way that we won’t be ashamed of looking back? Bingo.

by hokiegrad on Feb 8, 2011 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. We could have beat Alabama, we should have beat Auburn, and we should have beat USC. We have the talent on the field but not in the press box, while Stinespring is a good recruiter he is a terrible O.C. As for Beamer, the man still knows what he’s doing and should be able to leave on his own terms. I remember the days when we couldn’t buy a win but VT is a nationally recognized program and it’s high time we bring in some coaches who can get us over the hump to that elusive National Championship.

by Marinehokie on Feb 8, 2011 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

I think Hokies will look back on the last decade as the golden age. Only after a downturn will you truly appreciate just how much VTech accomplished.

'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'11: Conference Champions?

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by Bud Elliott on Feb 8, 2011 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

Hokie Decline?

Are you expecting the Hokies to decline? If so, when does it begin and how far does it go? It would be nice to get insight into what other ACC fans think of the Hokies and where their future lies. I personally see this team staying right where they are, somewhere in between really good and elite.

Obviously, you know what it’s like to be a fan of an elite football school that declines to mediocrity, and on the verge of a comeback. What advice do you have for VT fans, if this decline begins to take form?

by Chazz Micheal Michealzz on Feb 9, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I am.

I’m not sure for how long or how far.

In some part, the Hokie climb was helped by FSU treating its program like an exhibit in a history museum and not a football program. When both programs are operating at peak efficiency, FSU brings in a different level of recruit than the Hokies do.

And it takes that level of recruit to compete on the grandest of stages. The Hokies have been winning an ACC that doesn’t feature an elite team. I don’t think “very good” will win the ACC in most years going forward. I think it will take “excellent.” And as such, I think the Hokies will go back to struggling against FSU as they have throughout history. Why? The difference in talent.

I think Virginia Tech will continue to win 8-10 regular-season games, but will win fewer ACC championships in the next six years than it did in the first six of the ACC.

I also think losing some talent to Virginia will hurt. No, I don’t think UVA will overtake Virginia Tech. But even without recruiting at a nationally-elite level, Virginia Tech has pretty much been the dominant recruiting team in Virginia for a long time now. That seems to be changing. UVA seems to have its act together to reach its peak (even if that peak is a consistent 6-6, 7-5 team). There isn’t enough talent around Virginia to support a 7-5 UVA team and an 11-3 Virginia Tech squad. Not with Tennessee and UNC doing good recruiting work in the state as well.

FSU was in a similar position. They didn’t realize how good they had it. That’s my message. Enjoy it and realize that a program like Virginia Tech doesn’t control as much of its destiny as you may think.

'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'11: Conference Champions?

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by Bud Elliott on Feb 9, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Hokie climb helped by FSU?

nah, I don’t see that. The climb happened before VT entered the ACC, so FSU wasn’t involved (other than the NC… and losing that certainly didn’t help). Since then VT’s been maintaining, not climbing (sadly). Now, do I think FSU’s downturn has helped us maintain? Depends on how you look at that. FSU getting better might reduce the number of ACC championships VT wins, but shouldn’t make VT worse on the football field. I’m more worried about UVA’s and UNC’s recent recruiting success. THAT could have a definite effect on the product we put on the field, if it continues.

I hope we realize how good we have it. Because there will come a downturn at some point. There always is.

by hokiegrad on Feb 10, 2011 8:29 AM EST up reply actions  

In terms of winning ACC titles, a down FSU absolutely helped. I agree it doesn’t make VT worse on the football field. You can be better on the field and worse in the record book. I wasn’t implying that it impacted the quality of play.

'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'11: Conference Champions?

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by Bud Elliott on Feb 10, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe YOU act like it's a birthright

I don’t. I appreciate what the team accomplishes. Would I love to see a nat’l championship trophy in our cabinet? Of course – what fan wouldn’t? Do I question the logic of the coaches at times? Again – what fan doesn’t? Am I a homer for my team? Bet your ass – but I also recognize their shortcomings, players & coaches alike.

I’m proud to be a Hokie. I’ll be even prouder should we win it all some day. Until then, I’ll continue to act like any passionate fan & call it like I see it.

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by Buck Melanoma on Feb 9, 2011 6:23 AM EST reply actions  

Applause Please

Are we spoiled to success, yes. And we all know we are the best of the best arm chair quarterbacks in the nation, unless you are an Alabama fan, or Ohio State, or Texas, or… well you get the picture.
  
Look at how much talent walks out the door after a couple of years of playing. How many senior running backs have we had? They kids are groomed, molded, and when they start earning that scholarship, off to being a 3rd round pick. How would our team look this season if both backs had stayed?

I was actually impressed what Foster did with the young kids on defense, just imaging in two years what that COULD look like.

by Aaron Creasy on Feb 9, 2011 10:09 AM EST reply actions  

Great post. If only the entirety of Hokie Nation realized this is the case and we should be damn proud of where our team is now from where it was. Winning a National Championship in college football has to be the toughest thing to do in sports I think and it is silly to see so many fans expecting it in the trophy case come January.

by Casey Richey on Feb 9, 2011 4:09 PM EST reply actions  

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