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So you're saying there's a chance?


I did not see anything posted on this topic, but I would assume that is because of the embarrasment that comes with losing to Boston College, Duke and Maryland (in football) during the same season.. but there is still a chance to win the Coastal, and it's not all that impossible - simply put... Duke needs to lose to UNC. Then, and only then - assuming we wipe the floor with UVA (who knows with this team and the fact that we cannot win without Kyle Fuller) - we get the pleasure of being stomped by FSU. But I'll take it!

Remaining games:

  • Duke: @WF, @UNC
  • VT: @UVa
  • Miami: UVa, @Pitt
  • GT: none

Duke goes if:

  • Duke wins out

Virginia Tech goes if:

  • VT wins out
  • Duke loses

Miami goes if:

  • Miami wins out
  • VT loses
  • Duke loses twice

GT goes if:

  • Duke loses
  • VT loses
  • Miami loses

UNC, Pitt, and Virginia are eliminated.


Keep in mind that if UNC beats Duke, they will tie for the division lead at 5-3.

If Duke were to lose to UNC, then:

  • If Virginia Tech beats Virginia, they win the division. In a tie with Duke, VT, GT, and UNC, both VT and GT have 2-1 in-group records, and VT has the head-to-head over GT. If you throw in Miami, VT is the only member of the group with a 3-1 record or better, so they win the head-to-head tiebreaker.

  • If Virginia Tech loses to Virginia and Miami wins out, Miami wins the division. In a tie with Duke, UNC, GT, and Miami, both GT and Miami have 2-1 in-group records, and Miami has the head-to-head over GT.

  • If Miami and Virginia Tech both finish with 4 losses, Georgia Tech wins the division with head-to-head wins over Duke and UNC. Georgia Tech does not have any more conference games; they're locked into a 5-3 record.

If Duke were to lose to Wake but beat UNC:

  • If Duke, VT, Miami, and GT all tie at 5-3, Duke and VT both have 2-1 records against the group, and Duke wins the head-to-head tiebreaker over VT.

  • If Duke, Miami, and GT tie, the teams are all 1-1 against each other. The second tiebreaker is in-division record. Duke would be 4-2 (GT, Pitt), Miami would be 4-2 (VT, Duke), and GT would be 4-2 (VT, Miami). The third tiebreaker is winning percentage against each team in the division, in descending order of standings. The next-best teams are either VT or VT and UNC, but it really doesn't matter which. Duke and Miami would have perfect records against them, eliminating GT. Duke then wins the head-to-head tiebreaker over Miami.

  • If Duke, VT, and GT tie, the teams are all 1-1 against each other. Virginia Tech would be 5-1 against the Coastal (Duke; it lost to BC and Maryland in the Atlantic), whereas Duke and GT would each be 4-2, so Virginia Tech would win the tiebreaker.

If catastrophe strikes and Duke loses both games:

  • If Miami, VT, GT, and UNC tie, Virginia Tech wins because it's 3-0 against the group.

  • If Miami, GT, and UNC tie, Miami wins because it won head-to-head against both opponents. The same is true if you substitute VT for Miami.

  • If GT and UNC tie, GT wins the tiebreaker because GT beat UNC head-to-head.

It's a cluster, but we've been here before and captured an ACC title thanks to this boondoggle logic. Gobble, Gobble.

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